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I've got the tranny seamless in every change, up and down, (cover your ears Poncho) at all different speeds, EXCEPT for that *!?"|@! 1st to 2nd shift!! Driving me nuts. If you make the change at very low speed - ie very soon after moving off - no problem. It's when you string out 1st a bit. Sometimes it goes in with not even a click, sometimes it BANGS in and most of the time it's somewhere in between. Tried every technique I can (incl pre-loading the shifter) but still not getting a consistent change that I'm happy with. Can see why some guys ignore 1st and just start in 2nd. One day I'll discover the perfect technique by accident and wonder what all the fuss was about...that's usually how things go in my world.
 

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I think you will learn the technique I've been rideing GL's for 20 years so I don't notice it.
 

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hard to rev match with Fuel injection but i am pretty good at it then shift at about 12 MPH .

It is very much like the granny gear in my 1948 GMC 1 ton so it gets very little use.
 

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If you think the Valkyrie clunks between 1st and 2nd try riding a Guzzi or a Harley...:D
 
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I assume you've tried keeping throttle open, clutching, popping into 2nd and still you're not satisfied?
I find this is OK at very low speed but not if I stretch out 1st. Trouble is of course we all do things slightly differently so hard to compare different riders' techniques.
 

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I've got the tranny seamless in every change, up and down, (cover your ears Poncho) at all different speeds, EXCEPT for that *!?"|@! 1st to 2nd shift!! Driving me nuts. If you make the change at very low speed - ie very soon after moving off - no problem. It's when you string out 1st a bit. Sometimes it goes in with not even a click, sometimes it BANGS in and most of the time it's somewhere in between. Tried every technique I can (incl pre-loading the shifter) but still not getting a consistent change that I'm happy with. Can see why some guys ignore 1st and just start in 2nd. One day I'll discover the perfect technique by accident and wonder what all the fuss was about...that's usually how things go in my world.
Simple solution - don't use 1st, start off in 2nd. This monster will start off in 5th with very little clutch slipping. I was discussing it with the service manager at the dealership, and he said he has a friend with an ankle issue, and he always starts off in 3rd. I only use 1st when walking it, i.e., into the garage.
 

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Simple solution - don't use 1st, start off in 2nd...
Yes, considered that but I'm stubborn. I've got five gears and I want to use 'em all :D I guess the designers just intended first to be a "get 'er moving" gear and not stretched out. A bit boring though. I haven't quit trying to find the magic formula yet but might be getting close :| For those new to the Valkyrie, the upshifting technique I've found to work the best is (a) change up sooner rather than later and (b) make that throttle flick REAL quick. Keep your right hand really soft and relaxed so you can flick like grease lightning. When I'm doing it well I've found this technique allows my upshifts to happen with literally no sound or feeling at all and it's only the sound of the engine revs being lower that lets me know I have in fact moved up a cog(!) Beautiful engineering.
 

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“Until you get an electric .... you won’t ever be happy with the tranny”

Not true. I don’t give up that easily. You’re judging me by your own capability.
 

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“Until you get an electric .... you won’t ever be happy with the tranny” Not true. I don’t give up that easily. You’re judging me by your own capability.
" EXCEPT for that *!?"|@! 1st to 2nd shift!! Driving me nuts."
not too sure, but it wasn't I that wrote that. somebody is having issues with their tranny. most of us just live with it, either avoid it or have learned to color inside its lines..
reminds me of pre-skool kids that refuse to color inside the lines and just scratch and scribble all over the page. well done Johnny, mom will hang that proudly on the fridge.;)
 

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It’s not colouring outside the lines, it’s improving your skills. Constant improvement is the name of the game. If you’re not improving ‘em you’re losing ‘em. Hey Poncho, here’s an idea: don’t feel like you always have to be the smartest guy in the room. Your posts always have to have that little put down in them. You can’t make your candle burn brighter by blowing out someone else’s.
 

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You’re judging me by your own capability... You can’t make your candle burn brighter by blowing out someone else’s.
gp, you are right. I don't beat the living **** out of my machines and can't fathom why you would want to. other than your fascination with TE Lewis and his jaded sense of speed is the only way he can feel alive. that didn't turn out so well for him. its just a story, but it could have gone south for those kids as well.
you write how wonderfully well Honda engineered this particular machine and then go on to berate its performance. why not just accept it as it is? you don't want to change the way it looks. but you want it to do everything flawlessly. no machine on earth does that. If you don't like first or any other gear ratios, pull the dam motor down and rebuild the tranny with gears you think would be more suited to your riding style. maybe then you might find peace with this machine.. otherwise your just going to bicht about it infinum.
all this rev matching gear shifting is really just nonsense, riding your 750lb cruiser on public roads as if you were on a 400lb race bike at the track is a recipe for bad juju.. you want to improve your riding skills, take an advance mc SAFETY course and practice what you learn.
ps. I am trying to convince you to not let yours go out. TE Lewis style.
 

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TE Lawrence ?
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Lawrence of Arabia: The Authorised Biography of T. E. Lawrence U.S. edition (Atheneum)
Author Jeremy Wilson Country United Kingdom Language English Genre Biography Publisher William Heinemann Publication date 1989 Media type Hardcover Pages 1188
940.4/15/092 B 20LC ClassD568.4.L45 W55 1989Lawrence of Arabia: The Authorised Biography of T. E. Lawrence is a book by Jeremy Wilson about the noted historic figure T. E. Lawrence ("Lawrence of Arabia"),[1] who helped lead the Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire during World War I. It was published in 1989, first by William Heinemann Ltd., London, then in the United States by Atheneum, New York.
 
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