Yah I get that, but what type of tips, how are they connected, can they caps be pulled to swap out the baffles for different sound and effects? My TWO Brothers I drilled out the rivets that held on the cap and slashed the ends all of these things will determine if I go with Torq Masters, Two brothers or Delkevic. And of course fit and finish. And once again a sound clip would be nice. And as far as the look from the end, I pick a gal up at a bar once and once I got her home the look from the rear was completely different. :nerd: