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Having never removed the factory pipes just how involved is it? Thinking of removing them soon to get them ceramic coated. Thanks, Rod
HR, nothing is difficult if you take your time and prepare your work area and tools. I have not looked specifically at these mufflers, but you should FIRST be able to loosen the locking collar at the muffler where the cats feed into them. THEN take off the mounting bolt that suspends the muffler at the passenger footpeg mount. Once this is done, the muffler should wiggle off backwards off the cat feeder pipe.


the bigger question is WHY? ceramic coat what? the outside of the muffler? Why? the only thing worthy of ceramic coating is the Inside of a complete new header system to keep exhaust gases moving and pipe temp down. but this whole system is under the motor where Nobody is going to touch it. So WHY and What-How , the big heavy stock mufflers?
 

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Simple answer .....I don't like the chrome. The sound after I drilled the pipes is OK by me. So not interested in putting a bunch of money in pipes ,torque loops ....
Torq Loopz makes all the difference. Better sound and more power. Changing mufflers without doing Torq Loopz is silly and a waste. Factory pipes are two different back pressures as one is tuned for low rpms and the other is tuned for high rpms. They are designed to be used with a crossover pipe. Be amazed at what the bike will sound like and perform after the change.
 

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Can you please share how many and what size holes you drilled, in each pipe and did you notice ANY kind of powder or mileage loss , in doing so ??
!/2" holes drilled in the two "dummy pipes" for each muffler. No loss of mileage & tons of power as before ...... Picking up my pipes tomorrow from the shop that ceramic coated them ...... :) Here is a pic of one of my pipes where I drilled out the two dummy pipes ,first layer only not too deep:
 

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I've seen 1" holes drilled usually.....

What made you decide to use 1/2" , instead ??
There was a thread on it & the general consensus was for the best sound the 1/2" was it. A change was noted going up in size. I would not go too crazy with drilling them out for fear of creating a drone like the after market pipes have ..... Rod
 

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Got to keep going now. Looks kind of silly with the chrome pipes below engine covers. Get those, the engine covers, timing chain cover, forks and headlight cover completed for a nice blacked out look.
Got the speedo & headlight covers on the way. Planning to remove brake pedal & timing cover this winter & take to powder coat. Forks will get it whenever I decide to service them :)
........Rod
 
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