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I appreciate the helmet varieties out there. However, as much as I want protection, I certainly wish there could be a helmet similar to what cyclist wear with the way they look but most of all, the lightness and amount of air it lets in.

I’m certain that the recent deaths of 7 bikers in OHIO, most likely riding without helmets, should be a wake-up call for many who ride but I HAVE NOT seen one word written about whether or not any of them were wearing helmets.

Of course, this is always the choice of the rider whether they choose to wear a helmet but I do wonder if there was, what I would call, a near perfect helmet out there, would more people choose to wear one even in the states that do not require them?
 

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I always wear a helmet whether I'm riding the Valk or the peddle bike. As for the seven deaths, helmets surely wouldn't have helped with that. The retard that mowed them down has a history of driving under the influence and might not even be a "legal" US citizen. It's getting to scary out there.
 

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...... As for the seven deaths, helmets surely wouldn't have helped with that. The retard ... might not even be a "legal" US citizen.

I'm calling your reply Fake News.


7 people died, with or without helmets (you don't know), but somehow you say they would have had no chance of survival with or without helmets because the driver "might not even be a "legal" US citizen.


This is a thread about helmets on motorcycle forum and you find it necessary to comment on whether the riders died because the driver managed to climb over or under the wall. The Big Beautiful Wall.


They may well have died from head injuries from impact forces that may well have been reduced if they were wearing helmets. But I don't know.


Crapping on a la Donald Trump about all the 'scary' bad guys out there does not really have a place in any discussion about helmets, does it?


Now is not the time to discuss gun control.
 

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I wonder why helmet mfgs don't provide custom fit, foam injected to fit your very special noggin.? much like they do for custom fit ski boots. something to fill the void between the inner padded liner and the outer hard shell. just seems to be a no brainer solution to all the bazillion helmets that don't fit anybody. correctly.


while they are at it, perhaps the padded liner could be laced liquid cooling tubes that exit at the back of the shell. a close loop system cooling fluid could circulate and absorb head heat and be routed to either the outer shell or a neck flap where water can evaporate and absorb this heat and reject it to the atmosphere.. it cant be all that hard to do. off the shelf parts. Just Chillin..


I am seeing some fringe helmets come on the market much like I wrote 20 years ago that have directional and stop lamp LEDs embedded - wireless from your sleds inputs.. a bit over the top, but if it saves your bacon.?
 

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I'm calling your reply Fake News.


7 people died, with or without helmets (you don't know), but somehow you say they would have had no chance of survival with or without helmets because the driver "might not even be a "legal" US citizen.


This is a thread about helmets on motorcycle forum and you find it necessary to comment on whether the riders died because the driver managed to climb over or under the wall. The Big Beautiful Wall.


They may well have died from head injuries from impact forces that may well have been reduced if they were wearing helmets. But I don't know.


Crapping on a la Donald Trump about all the 'scary' bad guys out there does not really have a place in any discussion about helmets, does it?


Now is not the time to discuss gun control.

Huh? What are you ranting about?
 

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I reckon Poncho's on the money here. Custom helmet-making to each head is surely the future. Every head is unique - like fingerprints. It's silly to think we can make 3 or 4 sizes and make them fit everyone. First mainstream manufacturer to work out how to do custom helmets cost effectively will surely kill the pig. Scan the head, 3D print the foam....I dunno, something like that.
 

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I reckon Poncho's on the money here. Custom helmet-making to each head is surely the future. Every head is unique - like fingerprints. It's silly to think we can make 3 or 4 sizes and make them fit everyone. First mainstream manufacturer to work out how to do custom helmets cost effectively will surely kill the pig. Scan the head, 3D print the foam....I dunno, something like that.

Agree. I know it took me a while to find a helmet that fit properly and was comfortable. Military pilots get custom made helmets, so should we have an economical option for the same.
 

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the process is much simpler and cost/time efficient. Simply pick the right size and style shell. Pick the correct inner padded liner. attach appropriate stand off spacers and snap the liner to the shell edges. Put the helmet on and adjust as necessary for fitment and comfort. Then inject the foam into the space between the outer shell and the inner padded liner. Sit still for the few minutes that the foam sets up and solidifies. disconnect the foam inject tube and put a plug in the hole. Wala! custom fitted helmet. 5 minutes tops.


the resellers only need to stock Shells and Liners and can fit just about anybody with their special needs. cost efficient if you don't have a lot of old stock you cant move. The inner liner would have a thin film plastic liner such that the foam would not become attached to the liner, so it could be removed and cleaned or even replaced if necessary.


I might have to build a prototype and then get in this biz.? the cooling system is probably the bigger idea, for riding in summer heat,, it could be retrofitted to any existing helmet to keep cost down and sales up.
 

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..... Military pilots get custom made helmets, so should we have an economical option for the same.
That logic made me lol. Do you know what the Pentagon pays for ordinary toilets?
Minor correction to the OP. The accident happened in New Hampshire which has no helmet laws. The douche bag truck driver was busted for DUI as far back as 2013, when he was 17 years old? If he was not tested for alcohol at the time of this accident, he probably gets away with it.
 

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That logic made me lol. Do you know what the Pentagon pays for ordinary toilets?
Minor correction to the OP. The accident happened in New Hampshire which has no helmet laws. The douche bag truck driver was busted for DUI as far back as 2013, when he was 17 years old? If he was not tested for alcohol at the time of this accident, he probably gets away with it.

Yeah, I think those helmets are like $30k each. As for the accident, that is heart wrenching and I don't even know the people that got killed. The driver should have never been allowed on the road with his driving record. According to the "fake news" ICE is looking at his immigration status as he might be an illegal from the Ukraine. Another reason this accident should not have happened.
 

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I do find it rather odd in this day of space age polymers and what not that the innards and construction of my premium Shoei 3/4 helmet are not too different from an old Bell 3/4 I had in the early 80’s with all the impact absorbing materials and construction used on vehicles today that a helmet has to be so large and cumbersome to get a DOT or SNELL rating
 

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I look at tons of helmets online and while some really stand out, the summer heat makes me wish that there was a little more engineering thought, similar to how the bicycle helmets are made.

In winter, I want my head warm so this is a non issue for then.

We have the technology, resources, but seemingly, we do not have the want to.

This country needs to make laws that no one can hold a cell while driving and everyone that rides motorcycles are required to wear helmets. Just think of the gazillion lives this would save.

I'm pretty sure that if helmet law requirements for every state were already in place, I'd have my stinking helmet.

An affordable, DOT passed, summer time comfortable helmet, and saved lives. What a wonderful world this would be! :D
 

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dp, you could drill a hundred small holes and paint it to look like a golf ball. it would probably catch some air current and lift so that it had a zero net weight.. or perhaps strangle you?
 

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Kinda sorta but you'd be better off going without one. That is for a bike and there again, don't see much protection hitting trees or asphalt. Looks like that is for bmi riders.

I assume building one similar to that for motorcycles and ATV's would require carbon fiber and/or thick poly carbonate plastic, fiberglass, or Kevlar. Would be an expensive helmet but for the air circulation and protection, worth it.
 

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A lot of R&D has gone into football helmets offering more player protection such as shock absorbers.

I'm shocked that we never see any thing like this for our helmets. All this stuff that I'm imagining for a seasonal helmet should already be available along with high tech innards. Where the freak is it?

 

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This country needs to make laws that no one can hold a cell while driving...
Yep, we did that not so long ago. VERY quickly changed driver behaviour as the law was out strictly policing it. They would even lane-split down stationary traffic at lights (on unmarked police bikes) to catch people touching their phones in their lap. Now you see people pulled over everywhere as they make their calls. Hardly anyone actually driving with a phone in their hands.
 
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