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That bloody 1st to 2nd change

I've got the tranny seamless in every change, up and down, (cover your ears Poncho) at all different speeds, EXCEPT for that *!?"|@! 1st to 2nd shift!! Driving me nuts. If you make the change at very low speed - ie very soon after moving off - no problem. It's when you string out 1st a bit. Sometimes it goes in with not even a click, sometimes it BANGS in and most of the time it's somewhere in between. Tried every technique I can (incl pre-loading the shifter) but still not getting a consistent change that I'm happy with. Can see why some guys ignore 1st and just start in 2nd. One day I'll discover the perfect technique by accident and wonder what all the fuss was about...that's usually how things go in my world.

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I think you will learn the technique I've been rideing GL's for 20 years so I don't notice it.

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It's when you string out 1st a bit.
I assume you've tried keeping throttle open, clutching, popping into 2nd and still you're not satisfied?
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hard to rev match with Fuel injection but i am pretty good at it then shift at about 12 MPH .

It is very much like the granny gear in my 1948 GMC 1 ton so it gets very little use.

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If you think the Valkyrie clunks between 1st and 2nd try riding a Guzzi or a Harley...
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I assume you've tried keeping throttle open, clutching, popping into 2nd and still you're not satisfied?
I find this is OK at very low speed but not if I stretch out 1st. Trouble is of course we all do things slightly differently so hard to compare different riders' techniques.
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hard to rev match with Fuel injection but i am pretty good at it then shift at about 12 MPH
You are talking about shifting up from 1st to 2nd?
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I've got the tranny seamless in every change, up and down, (cover your ears Poncho) at all different speeds, EXCEPT for that *!?"|@! 1st to 2nd shift!! Driving me nuts. If you make the change at very low speed - ie very soon after moving off - no problem. It's when you string out 1st a bit. Sometimes it goes in with not even a click, sometimes it BANGS in and most of the time it's somewhere in between. Tried every technique I can (incl pre-loading the shifter) but still not getting a consistent change that I'm happy with. Can see why some guys ignore 1st and just start in 2nd. One day I'll discover the perfect technique by accident and wonder what all the fuss was about...that's usually how things go in my world.
Simple solution - don't use 1st, start off in 2nd. This monster will start off in 5th with very little clutch slipping. I was discussing it with the service manager at the dealership, and he said he has a friend with an ankle issue, and he always starts off in 3rd. I only use 1st when walking it, i.e., into the garage.

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Simple solution - don't use 1st, start off in 2nd...
Yes, considered that but I'm stubborn. I've got five gears and I want to use 'em all I guess the designers just intended first to be a "get 'er moving" gear and not stretched out. A bit boring though. I haven't quit trying to find the magic formula yet but might be getting close For those new to the Valkyrie, the upshifting technique I've found to work the best is (a) change up sooner rather than later and (b) make that throttle flick REAL quick. Keep your right hand really soft and relaxed so you can flick like grease lightning. When I'm doing it well I've found this technique allows my upshifts to happen with literally no sound or feeling at all and it's only the sound of the engine revs being lower that lets me know I have in fact moved up a cog(!) Beautiful engineering.

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(cover your ears Poncho) until you get an electric bike with zero tranny to shift, you wont ever be happy. https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/ this is the bike you need. and yes you can do 100% engine braking w/o losing traction. win-win

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