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High mileage rear radial tire recommendations

Has anyone had more than 12,000 miles on a rear radial tire? Not looking for a lot of discussion about how much everyone loves their tires - I'm looking for a recommendation for a high mileage dual compound or triple compound rear tire without going to the dark side (which I might end up doing next year if I keep going thru tires every 4-5 months). My Bridgestone S20 triple compound lasted only 7,000 miles and surprised me when it very suddenly went down to the radial threads (I was watching it carefully, knowing it was far from new), versus Dunlop Roadsmart III that went 12,000 miles in generally the same conditions, and I only changed it because of an upcoming trip. Currently mounting a Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT. It's frustrating that vendors publish size, weight and speed ratings, but not the wear rating for the particular compound used. OK, might as well take specific recommendations for darkside too, as the 2 people I know who ride more than 20,000 miles/year swear by them. It's also frustrating to be only a little more than 3,000 miles into a tire but having to change it because of a long trip coming up. Waaa. Waaa.

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I have 10,000 miles on a Pilot Road 4 GT and I'm about to replace it. Only highways so the sides of the tires are still ok. It might last longer for you if you do twisties. Also had a Pilot Road 3 for 10,000 miles and had to change it because of a nail... but it was about to need to be replaced.
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How about the Michelin Commander II's or maybe even the III's ?
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Some good discussions since yesterday, here and elsewhere. Here’s a great article that came up, and it is very much in agreement with a lot of the comments that I received: https://www.baggersmag.com/best-long...-touring-tires. “Dunlop claims you can cross the US six times before needing to replace its new Elite 4 tires,” and Michelin Commander II’s are ‘rated for 25,000 miles’ (I’ve been running the bias ply on the front for 13,000 miles and it still looks nearly new) I’m sure most people won’t get near 25,000 miles on the rear of a bike as heavy and high torque as a Valk 1800, but even half of the manufacturer’s claim would be wayyyy better than the 4,000 – 7,000 that many of us are seeing and accepting as normal.
But there’s a catch - apparently neither the Elite 4 and Commander II, are made in a radial in the stock size (180/60). I do find them both in a 200/55ZR 17 and I’ve seen reports where some Valk 1800 riders are running 200/55 and very happy, but there was also at least one report that (something part I didn’t recognize and now can’t remember) had to be modified. I spoke with my local Honda dealer and they thought the 200/55 would fit, and they had no objection to trying to mount it, or even darkside if that’s what I wanted!
Meanwhile, they mounted a Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT in stock size that I had ordered in a hurry so I can get riding again, and I’ll see if my next 10,000 miles are like Gonochi87’s, as I try to do as many rural twisties as I can, but there’s a lot of straight highway miles on the way out of town.

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Another comment that I've seen from others here and I can't agree more: the Michelin are good on the rain and for cornering. I always take the same roads and I can tell that with the Michelin, I'm able to lean the bike much more than with other tires I had (no matter how new/old the rear tire was). I'm sure you're gonna like it and will be able to tell the difference..
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So , whats the bottom line , if I had to replace it today - what tires and sizes , can you recap for me here please ? so , its easier for me to get some quotes and order me some ?
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So , whats the bottom line , if I had to replace it today - what tires and sizes , can you recap for me here please ? so , its easier for me to get some quotes and order me some ?
I thought I just did!

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Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT or
Michelin Commander II's or
Dunlop Elite 4.

The latter 2 might have to be in a larger than 180/60R 17 stock size, but don't blame me if you buy it and whoever you have installing it says it won't fit!! 200/55 is a fairly common larger size, and 190/55 is in between.

Dunlop Roadsmart III were available in stock size and I ran them for more than 12,000 miles.
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’66 Benelli (Montgomery Wards) 125 cc Riverside
’74 Yamaha Enduro DT360
’74 Honda CB450
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’77 Yamaha RD400
’80 Kawasaki KX250
’71 Honda CB750K1
’82 Yamaha Virago XV750
'95 Honda Magna VF750CD
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thanks much.... I think the commander II's are a safe bet , I had it installed on my 750 VT shadow phantom and I was quite happy with the handling , but then , this bike is almost 250lb heavier , so who knew.
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